Alchemy is the ancient process of transforming lead into gold, and we speak with Sue Scavo and Bill St. Cyr about how dreams provide a crucible which accelerates our personal and even our societal transformation. Bill brings up the idea that maybe our “gold” is there all along covered by a protective layer of “lead”, and that the lead protects us from being exposed (the way that lead protects us from x-rays) until we are ready to let our gold come to light. Among many other ideas we also touch into the idea that fully accepting where we are is part of the process of moving forward.

We take a call from Mary Anne from Santa Fe who shares a dream about giving birth to a white orb and then… a plastic bag!

Live ambient music by Rick Kleffel.

Show aired on December 5, 2020.

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