They dive into the intricacies of residential credit within insurance portfolios, exploring the evolution of the asset class, and its unique risk-reward dynamics. Justin and Bryan share insights into their organizations, how they evaluate residential credit opportunities, and the strategic partnership between Shelter Growth and Mutual of Omaha.

The conversation touches on the role of direct lending in residential credit, the macro and micro perspectives on the housing market, and the importance of customizable solutions for insurance companies. The episode concludes with engaging personal insights from Justin and Bryan, adding a touch of personality to the in-depth discussion.