In this episode of the RPGBOT.Podcast, we dive into the art of dueling in tabletop RPGs! From the narrative and mechanical challenges in D&D 5e to the dynamic strategies in Pathfinder 2E, we explore how to make duels truly epic. Whether you're navigating the limitations of 5e or enjoying the tactical depth of Pathfinder, we've got tips to enhance your game. Plus, we tackle a listener question on powerful character builds!

Summary

In this episode of the RPGBOT.Podcast, the hosts delve into the intricacies of incorporating duels into tabletop RPGs, with a particular focus on Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition (5e) and the Pathfinder series. They discuss the narrative and mechanical challenges of dueling in 5e, noting the limitations such as rocket tag combat and the absence of recovery mechanics. While acknowledging that duels can be adapted in 5e with homebrew rules, they suggest that systems like Pathfinder 1st Edition handle duels more effectively.

The conversation then shifts to Pathfinder 2nd Edition, where the hosts explore its more dynamic and strategic dueling mechanics, including varied skills for initiative and unique reactions available to duelists. They appreciate the balance between martial and magic duels in this system, which offers a richer tactical experience.

Finally, the hosts discuss how to create effective duels in both Pathfinder 2 and 5e, emphasizing player agency, fair challenges, and the complexities of PvP duels in 5e. They share personal experiences and provide advice on crafting balanced dueling encounters, concluding the episode by addressing a listener's question about powerful yet well-played character builds.

Links

• People who tried to do PVP for 5e
• https://scrollforinitiative.com/2022/01/21/welcome-to-the-arena-how-to-run-pvp-dd/ 
• https://www.dndpvp.ca/the-rules
• Legend of the Five Rings (affiliate link)
• PF2 Duels on Archives of Nethys

Takeaways

• Duels can add dramatic moments and character development to tabletop RPGs.
• The mechanics of duels in Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition (5e) are limited and can result in rocket tag combat.
• Pathfinder 1st Edition offers some solutions for duels, including unique actions for duelists.
• Homebrew rules may be necessary to make duels work effectively in 5e.
• Duels are better suited for systems like Pathfinder 1st Edition. Dueling in Pathfinder 2nd Edition is more dynamic and strategic compared to previous editions
• Different skills can be used for initiative in duels, allowing for a variety of approaches
• Duelists have access to special reactions and abilities based on the skill they used for initiative
• There is a balance between martial duels and magic duels, with different options and strategies for each
• Establishing ground rules and agreements before a duel can add depth and excitement to the experience Player agency is crucial when incorporating duels into tabletop RPGs.
• Pathfinder 2 has rules that make duels work well, while 5e lacks effective rules for fair player duels.
• PvP duels can cause drama and imbalance in the game and are generally not recommended.
• Creating a balanced encounter for a solo player in Pathfinder 2 involves selecting an NPC or monster of a similar level.
• Broken character builds can be played well and not necessarily break the game if the player is considerate and doesn't overshadow other players.

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