In this episode, Dinesh challenges a prominent NeverTrumper who insists that Trump supporters are the dumbest group in the country.    Dinesh explains how high school debate is becoming a thing of a past, as judges now take sides on a partisan basis.  Michael Reagan, son of the former president, joins Dinesh to talk about his dad and his current pursuits.  Stuart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, joins Dinesh to talk about his sedition trial and sentence.

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