In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Jamie Dean, a gifted musician who recently released his latest single, Wonder. Jamie is also the founder of Spir Sauna, a space known for fostering deep connections and meaningful conversations.

We reflect on our shared journey of sobriety, inspired by our own dads who were good friends that got sober together and how that shaped our lives in sobriety. Jamie shares how getting sober has enriched his music career and strengthened his relationships.

We also delve into the authentic experiences and profound discussions that take place in his sauna business.

Find details and book in to Spir Sauna here: https://www.instagram.com/spirsaunas?igsh=MTA2aXN4a2kwc2s4dQ==

You can find Jamie Dean and his music here: https://www.instagram.com/jamie__dean__?igsh=MWI0bmM5N3pybm1icg==