It's a kind of two-for-one bargain-bin episode, but filled with the absolute worst the UK and its political classes have to offer; the journalist urge to make everything about Britain (no matter how deplorable that is), followed by a long interview with the distilled essence of centrism - sorry, the rational middle way. It's one of those blood pressure episodes. 

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