Today on The Viall Files we are joined by recording artist Ben Folds. Ben has a new podcast called Lightening Bugs which explores creativity, so Nick takes some time today to discuss all aspects of creativity and how each person can find artistry in whatever they do. They break down the difference between performative and creative actions especially in relation to social media. Nick and Ben also discuss the importance of empathy and how putting yourself in someone else's shoes is an adult way to face adversity.

"It is a sad thing when the moment of being wrong is equal to being evil."

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