The Viall Files

E419 Amber & Johnny: Body Language Expert & Therapist plus Natalie Joy!


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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Bachelor Gossip Edition! Today we are joined by Natalie Joy to help us dive deep and tackle the latest on the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial, bringing on psychologist, Dr. Kirk Honda, as well as body language expert, Janine Driver. After recapping the emotional testimonies, the inconsistencies in the narratives, and the allegations of using drugs in the courtroom and posing for photos, we bring in the experts to answer all of your burning questions. We first bring on Dr. Kirk to get his reactions to what's happening in this case, how two doctors could land on different diagnoses, and what people should do when stuck in traumatic situations without access to therapy. After that we bring on Janine Driver who is a body language expert with a focus. She dives into how being theatrical can be part of your baseline, how the structure of a story can tell if you're lying or not, and the massive amount of damage to your credibility that happens when you decide to fake cry. We then recap the information that we've learned and talk about why people want to side with Amber, and how people should believe women, regardless of how this specific case ends.

"Typically truthful people convey information, liars try to convince us."

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