This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the shifting dynamics of careers and education, the notion of "auto-paternalism" in organizational choices, Spotify's growth strategy in a mature market, the future of podcasts and audio content, and the intricate relationship between AI art, property rights and more.

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LINKS:

Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:27) Career advantages

(05:00) Young entrepreneurs today

(09:38) Money and legitimacy

(17:57) Sponsor: Brave

(18:59) Education and critical thinking

(27:34) Disrupting higher education

(39:25) Auto paternalism in organizations

(48:13) Spotify's market strategy

(53:39) AI art and property rights

(57:07) Wrap