This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss the lessons to be learned from the life of the late Charlie Munger. They explore what made Munger a great investor, how he was different from Warren Buffett, and where to find the next Munger today.

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Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity

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We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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LINKS:

Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co

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TIMESTIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:01) Byrne's reflections on businessman, investor, and philanthropis Charlie Munger

(09:33) On countersignaling

(15:53) Does Berkshire Hathaway bet against the future?

(22:57) What would Munger and Buffett be doing if they were starting their careers today?

(28:26) Are there certain market periods where Buffet and Munger would have done worse?

(32:38) Sponsor - Secureframe

(33:33) Buffett and Soros vs modern quants

(42:26) The half life of investing strategies

(53:50) AI's impact on social media

(1:02:37) Wrap

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The Riff is a production from Turpentine

Producer: Sam Kaufman

Editor: Seven Morris

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