In this episode, I sit down with my 22-year-old daughter Maggie to talk about something so many of us have experienced—heartbreak. Maggie recently walked through her first serious breakup, and we had an honest, emotional, and surprisingly hopeful conversation about what that process looked like for her.

We talk about why Jeffrey and I chose to hold off on dating during our kids’ high school years, what Maggie learned as she navigated her first relationship as a young adult, and how deeply painful and disorienting it was when it ended. Maggie shares how she processed the grief (spoiler: video diaries and lots of tears), how God showed up for her in unexpected ways, and what healing has looked like on the other side.

If you're a mom walking through something similar with your daughter—or you're someone healing from heartbreak yourself—this conversation is for you. We hope it brings you comfort, encouragement, and maybe even a few laughs. Hearts may not be built to be borrowed, but I believe God meets us right in the middle of the breaking. And He’s always making something beautiful, even here.

Chapters

00:00 | Navigating Breakups: An Introduction

03:58 | The Impact of High School Dating Restrictions

06:46 | First Love: The Significance of Maggie's Relationship

10:00 | Realizations and Challenges in the Relationship

12:51 | The Breakup: A Sudden Shift

15:54 | Processing Grief and Emotions

18:50 | Finding Healing and Moving Forward

28:29 | Navigating Heartbreak Together

33:11 | The Role of Faith in Healing

38:06 | Emotional Growth Through Breakups

40:07 | Advice for First-Time Heartbreakers

44:40 | Supporting Daughters Through Heartbreak

47:02 | Setting Standards in Relationships

48:59 | Reflections on Maturity and Growth