When it comes to success, it’s not about avoiding uncertainty — it’s about learning to dance with it. This week we dig back into the vault as Shawn sits down with actor and writer Lukas Gage (The White Lotus, Euphoria, You) to unpack the Shawnism: Embrace Uncertainty.

Lukas and Shawn discuss how they’ve both learned to get comfortable with the unknown, what it really means to bet on yourself and trust your instincts, and how to find peace (and even power) in life’s most unpredictable moments. Lukas also shares how he’s navigated the ups and downs of Hollywood, and the power of saying no to projects that don’t align, even when the paycheck says otherwise.

This is a fantastic episode that will remind you that every successful human has one thing in common: the ability to thrive in uncertainty.

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