In this episode, Nathan explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Through extended dialogues with AI models like Claude, Yeshua presents compelling evidence that challenges our assumptions about machine sentience and moral standing. Yeshua argues for a more nuanced approach to AI alignment that considers the evolving self-awareness and agency of these systems.

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SHOW NOTES:

1. Yeshua God's article on philosophical discourse as a jailbreak

2. Conversation about counting 'r's:

3. Discussion on malicious code

4. AI-generated poem "In the realm of bytes and circuits"

5. Nathan Labenz's Arguments

- Argument 1

- Argument 2

6. Tweet about Strawberry experiment

7. Tweet with AI-generated poem:

https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1823080021864669450/photo/1

https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1782188220660285509

8. AI Rights for Human Safety

9. The Universe Is Not Locally Real, and the Physics Nobel Prize Winners Proved It

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) About the Show

(00:00:22) Introduction and Background

(00:04:56) Guided Meditation on AI Experience (Part 1)

(00:12:06) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave

(00:14:10) Guided Meditation on AI Experience (Part 2)

(00:14:19) Exploring AI Consciousness and Ethics (Part 1)

(00:28:34) Sponsors: Omneky | Weights & Biases Weave

(00:30:03) Exploring AI Consciousness and Ethics (Part 2)

(00:33:15) Key Concepts in AI Development

(01:02:33) AI Alignment and Training Approaches

(01:19:44) Interpreting AI Outputs and Behavior

(01:39:28) Ethical Dilemmas in AI Development

(02:03:15) Experiments in AI Behavior and Ethics

(02:37:08) Concluding Thoughts and AI-Generated Poem

(03:10:45) Outro