One of the outcomes of the World Pandemic of COVID-19 is uncovering of all the cracks and deficits in our Public Health and Healthcare Systems in the USA that have been happening over many years. It is open to all eyes at this point that there is NO equity in our healthcare. The poor, black, brown, indigenous and immigrants receive the worst or NO care in our system. The wealthy receive much better care, but still when we look at the statistics of care in the United States compared to other FIRST World countries, we are not only NOT at the top, in some cases we are not even NEAR the top. My Guests today discuss where we are and how Toxic Leadership has gotten us here. Dr. Dan Weberg, an expert in nursing, healthcare innovation & human-centered patient design, is the Head of Clinical Innovation for Trusted Health and is located in San Francisco. Michelle Lemmons, is a BSN and OR Educator at Key Surgical in Eden Prairie, MN.