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Ep. 061 David Williams and BK Krueger of the BWC Company


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--- Panel ---

Harry is joined by industry consultants David Williams and BK Krueger of the BWC Company, along with editor Jenn Litz-Kirk, to discuss the rise of 19.2oz cans, canned cocktails, low and high alc, and more. 


---Liner Notes ---

00:00 Intro - hilarious banter, tech difficulties, winter is coming, jeff nowicki vs biscuit.

03:00 david williams of bump williams consulting joins,  more banter.

04:15 bk krueger finally decides to join.  more technical difficulties.

05:30 show starts in earnest, single-serve nation.

07:20 singles took a hit in share during pan even tho it grew. now 19.2 can back growing share.

08:00 innovation ramping up in 19.2's. more new brands.

08:20 abv's all over the place.

09:20 stovepipe can is the legacy of dale's and oskar blues. 

12:00 fight club reference.

12:40 marketing for occasions and lifestyle.

14:30 shopping for shorter time periods.  outside of pan, shoppers.

15:20 retailers sensitive to velocity of singles?

16:00 danger of singles trading people down in pkg size, or more incremental?

17:00 singles driving trial. 

17:30 seltzer 12pks still crushing it. 

18:40 higher abv seltzers pulling?  craft higher abv coming back.

19:30 capturing consumers by occasions. 

21:00 twisted tea vs mich ultra drinker: same people?  marketing for demographics vs lifestyle vs occasions.

21:30 still, not a huge amount of crossover from fmb's to seltzers/low cal.

22:00 wave on wave: low cal/abv/flavor moving to higher flavor/abv/cal. ?  

23:00 no-alc and imperial ipa's both doing well now.

24:00 hazy new england ipa's still rocking and rolling, steady flow of successful new brands -- getting into chains.

25:00 traditional ipa's are struggling compared to hazy and imperial.

25:30 price point access on high abv imperial ipa's.  2 for 5 dollars.  

26:00 grokking canned cocktails.  gallo's high noon slaying it. lots of new players getting share:  crown, cutwater, dfh, etc.  fits well with "in-hand" occasions.  something for everyone -- doubling share. 

30:40 multi-packs also en fuego.  craft most incremental variety packs are themed, flavors, beer styles (ipa, sour), abv's etc. 

32:00 expensive to pack (~extra buck a case?), but consumers demanding it and retailers allocating space. 

34:00 harry glad he's not a brewer.  sounds too hard. 

35:00 wrap up, and a...  Special Message of Hope from David Williams (tm).


---About---

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