"The Creative Leader".

A 15 minute edited highlight of our full-length conversation.

My guest in this episode is one of the most famous leaders the creative industries have ever known.

He's also one of the most controversial and most polarizing.

Sir Martin Sorrell has been called many things in the 34 years since he founded WPP.

Some people have described him to me as the most supportive and insightful leader they've ever worked for.

Others have been much less charitable. Much less.

I wanted to try to gain some insight into the complexities of a leader who drives so much opinion. To better understand how he sees himself.

What I learned surprised me.