Ryan Callaghan, who goes by Cal, is more than just a moustache. I first met Cal while he was working for First Lite as their director of conservation. I was immediately drawn to his authenticity. As a longtime hunter, angler and competent outdoorsman, he has seen a lot.

After a successful 12 years at First Lite, Cal recently transitioned into a new role. As MeatEater’s director of conservation, his focus is on highlighting the most important issues in the conservation space.

In this episode of Anchored, Cal and I discuss a little bit of his family history, the basics of the public lands campaign and Chronic Wasting Disease in deer.

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