A conversation with art historian Henrike Lange about her new book “Giotto's Arena Chapel and the Triumph of Humility” which takes a bold new look at the influences that shaped the iconic chapel. In particular, the role of Roman triumph arches as sculptural sources in an Augustinian theological frame of reference. The decades of research unlocks new meaning and understanding about the process and thought that Giotto and the chapel’s patron Enrico Scrovegni put into the masterpiece.