Smith Hanes is the founder and creative director of Smith Hanes Studio, an interior design firm he founded in 2004. Based in Atlanta with a second studio in New York, the firm is best known for its work in designing restaurants, boutique hotels, and hospitality spaces with a strong sense of mood and place. Hanes has created some of the South's most iconic restaurants, building a reputation for warm, layered environments where design plays a key role in the guest experience. He has also worked extensively in designing boutique hotels, creating spaces within that feel deeply connected to their local communities.

In this episode, Smith joins Steve for a conversation about the complicated nature of being a creative, what people get right (and wrong) about restaurant design, and the magic that happens when art and commerce intersect. Thank you to the FORTH Hotel for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.