This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Aliza Abarbanel, co-founder and editor of Cake Zine, a food-centric physical publication that is described as "a hedonistic exploration of history, pop culture, literature, and art through sweets."

00:00 Intro to Cake Zine and the Shift From Print to Digital Media

02:30 The Role of NY Mag in Media Representation

05:53 Tina Brown and the Evolution of Substack

10:00 Playboy's Business Challenges and Future Directions

12:00 Welcome Aliza - Dessert After Dark

17:24 The Benefits and Challenges of Print Media

21:06 Defining a Piece of Cake Zine

22:52 The Unique Approach of Cake Zine

25:54 Understanding the Economics of Indie Publications

29:26 Navigating the Attention Economy Trap

31:17 The Role of Events in Building Community

36:00 The Value of Collecting Magazines

38:33 Mushrooms in the Middle

41:03 The Community in Food Culture vs. Media Culture

45:44 Dreams of a Physical Space

48:06 Balancing Passion and Profession

49:39 Podcasting Insights and Experiences, Also Zodiac Signs

55:24 Final Rapid Fire Questions