Jonathan joins me to talk about his time on Rachel's season of the "Bachelorette," then appearing on "Bachelor in Paradise 4." How did he come up with the tickle entrance? Does he regret it? Do people still call him that? Did he feel like he could've lasted with Rachel? What made it him go on "Paradise?" All that and much more with Jonathan. Then Stephen Fishbach joins us to talk Survivor: Edge of Extinction. If you somehow haven't watched the finale just yet, we discuss the ending, plus touch on seasons 39 and 40 briefly that are upcoming.

Music by Jimmer Podrasky (B'Jingo Songs/Machia Music/Bug Music BMI)

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