This episode is part of Season 2 - which we've sub-titled, "Leading In The Time Of Virus".

In these conversations we discover how some of the world's most innovative and creative leaders are adapting their leadership to our new reality.

These people are among the world's best problem solvers.

Carl Johnson is one of the founding partners and the Executive Chairman of Anomaly.

It was recorded just before George Floyd's death. But it is filled with insights and truths that I believe must be at the heart of modern leadership as together we invent a future that welcomes and supports everyone.

Carl was my guest on Episode 2 of the podcast, 3 years ago. He has always been a disruptor - unafraid to break the rules. In fact, he wants to. Faced by a pandemic or inspired by a movement for lasting social change and he'll lead the charge - whether it's inventing the office of the future or redefining how great companies attract and unlock the potential of all talent.

In these conversations, one thing's becoming clear to me. The better leaders are moving faster. And as the saying goes, they're not satisfied with predicting the future. They're inventing it. The expectations for which have never been higher.