(SPOILERS) Vienna joins me to talk about how she had no idea who Jake was til she got out of the limo (4:32), being considered a villain (10:50), did she notice a moment where she realized she might not get a great edit (15:08), did she feel he was picking her on final rose ceremony day (16:15), when did the relationship start going south and why she didn’t get out of it (21:14), their on-air “breakup” and how scared she was in the relationship (29:10), going on “Bachelor Pad 2” with boyfriend Kasey (37:56), going on “Couples Therapy” with Kasey (40:37), Vienna talks about losing twin girls at 5 months in 2017 (45:04), and what she’s up to now and her boyfriend (1:00:32).

Music written by Jimmer Podrasky (B'Jingo Songs/Machia Music/Bug Music BMI)

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