As a young boy, John Gluck was kind to animals. But as a scientist, he was mentored by the notorious vivisector Dr.Harry Harlow at the University of Wisconsin. Then something clicked. He began to see the animals as patients, not tools of science. Gluck's book, "Voracious Science and Vulnerable Animals" has become a guide for scientists, especially of a new generation, seeking to practice a science aligned with their ethical identity. Gluck talks with Emil Guillermo about the ethical journey he's taken and admits he remains haunted by the faces of the animals he experimented on.

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(Originally published Oct.28, 2020)