Conquering Your Fibromyalgia Podcast

Ep. 146 Enhancing Care for Chronic Invisible Illnesses Through Understanding and Alliance. Part 3


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In this last episode of the series with Laura Hogan and Sarah Meuler, both specialized physical therapists, they discuss the significance of patients sharing their personal stories encompassing childhood, strengths, and traumas. They underline the therapeutic value of building trust through listening to patients' narratives, especially for those living with chronic invisible illnesses such as POTS, fibromyalgia, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 

00:00 Welcome to the Interview Series on Chronic Invisible Illnesses
00:27 The Power of Patient Stories in Physical Therapy
02:11 Building a Therapeutic Alliance and Addressing Emotional Aspects of Chronic Pain
05:34 Understanding the Complexity of Chronic Pain Management
07:51 The Importance of a Comprehensive Approach in Physical Therapy
11:56 Prevention and Family Involvement in Managing Chronic Conditions
24:00 Closing Thoughts and the Future of Physical Therapy

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When I started this podcast and YouTube Channel—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 29+ years as an MD.


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