Edited highlights of our full conversation.

Gail Gallie is the Co-Founder of Project Everyone where she works alongside the writer and director, Richard Curtis.

Project Everyone is a not-for-profit communications agency that creates campaigns and supports partners to raise awareness, inspire action and drive accountability for the Global Goals of the United Nations.

Their mission is to accelerate progress towards a fairer world by 2030, where extreme poverty has been eradicated, climate change is properly addressed, and injustice and inequality are unacceptable.

Gail's own energy is infectious. Even across a Zoom from three thousand miles away, she lifted my sense of possibility.

As you'll hear, there have been phases in her career where that hasn't been the case. And, like many leaders, she's had times where she's found herself out of sync with the organization she was running.

But through her journey, she has created a life in which her leadership both reflects and empowers her as a human being.

In my experience, that is all too rare. Most leaders relentlessly prioritize solving their company's problems over their own personal development.

Leadership is a moving target. And if you've listened to this podcast before, you'll know that great leadership requires that more than one thing be true at once.

You have to care about others. And you have to care about yourself.

And sometimes, not in that order.