Phil and Al are joined by election refugees Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer, the conservative filmmakers behind "Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer" and "Obamagate." They discuss journalism and the age-old struggle between good and evil, the Hollywood wasteland, how Ann and Phelim got burned out on leftism and "pro-choice" politics, and what it was like to meet murderous abortionist Kermit Gosnell in prison.

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