Jessica and I sat down to talk about several stories from the past week involving religious and politics.

-- Why Pastor Joel Osteen didn't open his Houston megachurch for people needing shelter during Hurricane Harvey until after he was publicly shamed over it. (0:37)

-- The Nashville Statement, an anti-LGBTQ manifesto written by conservative Christians. (The statement is at 17:28; analysis is at 31:32)

-- A new survey that shows many Protestants and Catholics don't understand the basic principles of their faith. (43:21)

-- A Matt Walsh tweet that was delightfully mocked by everybody. (56:18)

-- People calling it a "miracle" when they see a cross or Virgin Mary statue left standing in the midst of hurricane destruction. (1:01:28)

-- Ark Encounter finally (and inadvertently) shared some attendance figures. (1:05:35)

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