We sat with Fred and Seb from HOOKÉ to chat all about a new project and documentary, Scale of Change. This episode was recorded LIVE from the Toronto Sports Show, right in the YETI booth. We got to hear from Seb, a chef, hunter and angler about his outdoor life, and speak to Fred Campbell about Scale of Change...

In the upcoming documentary Scale of Change, we explore how individual actions, no matter how small, can lead to monumental transformations for the Atlantic salmon. One person restores a river system. Another removes a dam. Each action is a drop in the bucket, but together, those drops fill it—creating a ripple effect of change that, while not always immediately visible, holds the power to shape the future. If we believe in that shared vision, and have hope, we can make a meaningful difference.

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