Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by John Young. Like many security experts, John started out on the wrong side of the law by manipulating the AT&T phone system as a teenage phone phreak in New York City before he was scared straight by the FBI. His career started four decades ago in 1982, and by 1987 Young became the network director at McDonnell Douglas's $41.8 billion C-17 program. He eventually retired from IBM after a 30-year career in the corporate cyberwar trenches to launch his own company, CyberDef.

Regarded as one of America's top corporate cybersecurity experts and thought leaders, Young's published dozens of articles, appeared on countless podcasts, and is designing a video course for people based on his book so that they can thrive in cybersecurity. [May 15, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:53 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:51 - John Young Intro

06:41 - Scared Straight

15:38 - Imposter Syndrome

16:53 - Don't Quit Your Day Job!

22:54 - Integration is Key

28:05 - The Effect of AI on Cyber Security

32:32 - Tips to Stay Ahead

38:17 - Policies, Processes and Procedures

38:37 - Book Recommendations:

- Don't Hack! – John Young

43:22 - Find John Young Online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-young-4aa083151/

- Website: https://cyberdef.tv

43:55 - Learn to Thrive

46:42 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org