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Ep. 217 Understanding Pediatric Chronic Pain with Dr. William Frye Part 1


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In this episode, we explore the complexities of pediatric chronic pain with Dr. William Frye, a pediatric psychologist at Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital. Dr. Frye discusses the extended journeys families often undertake before reaching specialized care, the prevalence and challenges of polypharmacy, and the significant role non-pharmacological and multidisciplinary approaches play in managing pediatric chronic pain. The episode also delves into the importance of mental health, comprehensive patient assessment, and individualized treatment strategies. Dr. Frye emphasizes the need for holistic care, citing high rates of anxiety, depression, and even suicidal ideation among patients, and sheds light on the unique challenges neurodiverse individuals face. Stay tuned for part two, where practical strategies for managing chronic pain will be discussed.

00:00 Introduction to Dr. William Frye
01:27 Dr. Frye's Background and Journey into Pain Psychology
02:24 Overview of the Headache Study
03:33 Key Findings and Surprising Results
05:41 Challenges in the Healthcare Journey
08:05 Balancing Medication and Non-Medication Treatments
14:47 Mental Health's Role in Chronic Headaches
20:16 Unique Challenges for Neurodevelopmental Conditions
24:11 Benefits of Multidisciplinary Care
26:19 Conclusion and Preview of Part Two

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When I started this podcast and YouTube Channel—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 29+ years as an MD.


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