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Ep 227: 10 Years In | Money, marriage, and the lessons we didn’t see coming


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This week we’re celebrating our 10 year anniversary by sharing some lessons about money, partnership, and staying excited about the long game.

10 years of marriage isn’t just a milestone, it’s a record of every choice you made together, from buying a house to splitting a check to deciding who’s unloading the dishwasher. Some of those choices aged well. Others? Let’s just say they came with late fees.

In this episode, we get into:

  • What to do when “my idea” needs “our money,” and how to bring and how to bring it up without sounding like you’re making a sales pitch or begging for permission
  • The difference between conviction and borrowed confidence, and how to tell if you’re just hyped by somebody else’s results
  • The price we’ve paid for decisions that looked fine in the moment but flopped later and how we move on without dragging it out.
  • Why marriage isn’t 50/50 most of the time, and how keeping score only makes the game worse.
  • The trap of calling yourself “the responsible one” or “the spender,” and how those roles mess with the way you see each other
  • The metrics that matter more than net worth if you want your marriage (and your life) to feel exciting in year 20, 30, and beyond

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