For a long time, CANADALAND was (proudly) the number one podcast in the country — but that's no longer true.

Australian-born Kristi Lee works in marketing by day... but late at night, you can find her sitting in her closet, recording meticulously-researched scripts about the country's most horrific crimes.

Her Canadian True Crime podcast boasts an impressive listenership, and it's not alone. Lee's is among a burgeoning group of popular indie true crime podcasts made across Canada. But with such a following, why do we rarely hear about these shows?

Kristi joins Jesse to discuss the economics, entertainment, and ethics of true crime podcasting in Canada.

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