(SPOILERS) I begin by discussing how Wordle is consuming my life and misconceptions about Happy Couple visits in the “Bachelor” franchise. Then Jacqueline joins me (9:04) to discuss forced vulnerability on this show, how difficult it can be to open up, Cassidy & Shanae’s characters, how her fiancé Paul pulled off their engagement last month, her fertility situation and much, much more.

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