David Nichtern and Duncan Trussell return to the Mindrolling Podcast for a conversation about understanding the real value of emptiness and recognizing the active role we play in our own ignorance.

How can we cultivate the ability to see through the distortion of our own thoughts and emotions? In this episode, the group examines what the Buddhist teachings around dependent origination and emptiness can teach us about seeing through the fabrications of the mind.

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