In this episode of "Normal World," Dave Landau, 1/4 Black Garrett, and Angela open with headlines about Alex Cooper’s disputed misconduct claim, Netflix’s pay gap between Robin Wright and Kevin Spacey, and the unexpected vinyl release of "Brokeback Mountain." From there, the episode takes a darker turn into true crime, conspiracy, and cultural history.

They break down the growing suspicions around the so-called Lady Bird Lake Killer, after several bodies have been found in Austin under eerily similar circumstances. The conversation spirals into theories about serial killers being part of larger operations, with names like John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, and Richard Ramirez woven into stories about MKUltra, satanic symbolism, and government psyops. Also on the table: the Laurel Canyon music scene’s strange military ties, the Franklin cover-up, and whether the Manson murders were manipulated to fracture trust in the 1960s counterculture. Melissa Hager and Matt Bechtel join for stories about pen pals in prison, city council at 22, and cars that doubled as death traps.

Today's guests on "Normal World" are author Matt Bechtel and comedian Melissa Hager.

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