Award-winning journalist Hal Herring joins Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod for a deep dive into the critical issues facing public lands and conservation in America today. As a veteran writer for Field & Stream, The Atlantic Monthly, The Economist, and more, Herring brings a sharp perspective and years of investigative reporting to this no-holds-barred conversation.

In this episode, the trio tackles the controversial attempted sale of public lands in Utah, the deceptive legislation that threatens our natural resources (a.k.a. the “big beautiful bill”), and how conservation is being caught up in political narratives and culture wars. They also discuss the problem of misinformation in outdoor media, answer the “mystery bait bucket" question and more. 

This thought-provoking discussion underscores the importance of staying informed and engaged in protecting wild places — and what’s at stake if we don’t.

For more info:
Hal Herring Website
Hal Herring Podcast

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