Ep. 297: RaMell Ross on Nickel Boys

Welcome to The Last Thing I Saw, with your host, Nicolas Rapold. One of the great films of 2024 and now nominated for Best Picture and Adapted Screenplay, Nickel Boys is the fiction feature debut of RaMell Ross, who adapted Colson Whitehead’s novel with Joslyn Barnes, after previously directing the Oscar-nominated Hale County This Morning, This Evening. I was lucky enough to speak with Ross about making the movie, especially crafting its form, the screenwriting collaboration, the technology of racism, what he brought from documentary filmmaking, casting, and some of his influences.

Ross and his DP Jomo Fray use an innovative mix of extended first-person camerawork to tell the stories of two boys, Elwood (Ethan Herisse) and Turner (Brandon Wilson), in a Jim Crow-era reform school in Florida that’s essentially a prison; Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor co-stars as Elwood’s grandmother, Hattie. Archival video and film provide additional impressionistic glimpses of the world in the film's bold conception. (Note: this interview was recorded earlier.)

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