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You loved him before...you'll love this episode even more!

DISCLAIMER: we talk over each other, there is swearing...we might offend you...

But this guy has so much value to bring to the horse world.  Not just the stock horse world. He's been very involved in many different 'arenas' and has so much perspective to give.

We sat together to record this episode at HIS farm. He has grown so much in the last 10 years, and all of the blood, sweat, and tears are finally paying off. 

We touch on buying a farm, being the "Gate Guy" at a horse show, social media, and his perspective on training horses. 

I always leave a conversation with Julian feeling a new fire in my soul...I hope you do too from this episode!

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