Jeremy's daughter Sonya joins him on this episode to talk about her adventure on the Kalalau Trail on the island of Kauai in Hawaii.  In the first part of the show, they recount a bit of Hawaii's history, explain why Kauai doesn't have tall buildings (except one), and talk about the largest canyon of the Pacific.  Then they bring us to the Na Pali coast and its ancient footpath, the Kalalau Trail.  Sonya tells us about her hike along this beautiful and possibly dangerous coastal trail, including her encounters with some of its mysterious outlaw residents.  For more on that, see the February 2018 issue of Hakai magazine's article "Hawaii's Last Outlaw Hippies."  After talking about the trail, Sonya tells us about what growing up a backpacker has meant to her and why jelly beans just might be the solution to backpacking with kids.  She also tells us about her favorite footwear, key travel advice, and her aspirations to hike some longer-distance trails in the future.  And if all that wasn't enough, going nude in the outdoors comes up multiple times on this episode, so don't miss it!