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KROSS KANTER is officially here.

In this first episode, I sit down with Alicia Owens — a multiple World and National Champion in the Morgan and Saddlebred industry — to kick off a series that goes beyond just one discipline.

This conversation is equal parts insightful and unfiltered.

We get into:

• The surprising similarities (and differences) between disciplines
• What each side of the industry doesn’t understand about the other
• The reality of amateur vs trainer relationships
• The true cost of horse showing—and what it’s actually worth
• And the one thing every horse person has… a heart horse

There are a lot of laughs, a few reality checks, and plenty of moments that will make you think, “wait… that’s exactly how I feel too.”

This isn’t just another episode.
 It’s the start of something bigger.

Welcome to KROSS KANTER — different disciplines, same obsession.

• 00:00 – Introducing KROSS KANTER
• 02:30 – Meet Alicia Owens (Morgan & Saddlebred world)
• 06:00 – “Why are our industries so similar?”
• 10:00 – Discipline differences (and confusion 😂)
• 18:00 – Amateur vs Trainer dynamics (real talk)
• 28:00 – What it actually costs to show horses
• 38:00 – Academy vs ownership debate
• 50:00 – What makes a great horse (and rider)
• 1:05:00 – The reality of horse show culture
• 1:20:00 – “Heart horses” and emotional connection
• 1:35:00 – Funny horse show stories + chaos moments
• 1:50:00 – Final thoughts + what KROSS KANTER will be

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