On today's episode, Adam interviews YA Queen Cassandra Clare! They discuss her new Shadowhunter novel Chain of Gold, her research into Edwardian England, and they have a long conversation about tattoos. Her friend (and previous PBN guest) Holly Black naturally comes up as well.

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