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Jessica and I sat down to talk about several stories from the past week involving religion and politics.

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— The attack on Salman Rushdie is an attack on free expression. (1:38) (Note: Read this for more background on Rushdie and why The Satanic Verses is controversial.)

— An evangelical pastor demonized "wokeism" after making up his own definition of the word. (14:52)

— The Fargo School Board in North Dakota nixed the Pledge of Allegiance at meetings‚Ķ then reversed course after threats. (22:28)

— A Missouri pastor apologized after a sermon clip of him demanding a luxury watch from his congregation went viral. (32:09)

— A Texas school district banned the Bible. Oops. (39:25)

— The Department of Justice is investigating the Southern Baptist Convention. (48:52)

— Evangelist Beth Moore's crush on Jesus infuriated Southern Baptist men. (54:30)

— Atheists won a settlement against Arkansas State Sen. Jason Rapert. (1:02:20)