In Episode 46 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern and Patrick Lester (Bayside) sit down with Rob Leclerc, founder of AgFunder and one of TIME Magazine’s Top 100 VCs. Rob explains why he believes Hims is a category-defining company -- comparing it to Nvidia in 2016 -- and weighs in on the company’s high-profile engineering/AI hires from Cruise. The discussion covers Rob’s own experience as a Hims customer, Hims’ push into AI and tech leadership, the ZAVA acquisition and global expansion, and emerging frontiers like testosterone, diagnostics, and wearables. They also dig into public-market pressures, regulatory challenges, and how Hims might stack new S-curves to fuel growth over the next decade.

00:00 Intro

01:15 Rob’s background + AgFunder

02:21 Why Hims?

03:37 Rob as a Hims customer

06:55 Ex-Cruise tech leadership

11:04 AI, robotics & safety mindset

16:46 Is AI a bubble?

21:41 Core growth slowdown

27:45 Acquisition of ZAVA: how to evaluate

28:56 The $1B raise

31:17 Diagnostics, wearables, & home testing

35:12 Emerging healthcare trends

39:10 Regulation and patents

44:37 Public markets

50:27 Valuation

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