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Jessica and I sat down to talk about several stories from the past week involving religion and politics.

— Longtime atheist activist and mentor Woody Kaplan has died. (0:15)

— The #1 Christian album in the country belongs to drag queen Flamy Grant. (4:00)

— Richard Dawkins used his new podcast to promote more transphobic lies. (13:20)

— A Catholic school expelled a boy to retaliate against his outspoken mother. (59:31)

— A lawsuit could block Oklahoma's taxpayer-funded Catholic charter school. (1:11:06)

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