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Jessica and I spoke about several stories from the past week involving religion and politics.

— Vice presidential pick J.D. Vance is just Trumpism rebranded. (0:30)

— Televangelist Kenneth Copeland's family prayed for Donald Trump's ear. (15:44)

— "The left is godless": Why a MAGA spokeswoman's attack makes no sense. (21:25)

— Former Southern Baptist leader accused of sexual assault: At least it wasn't "adultery." (28:02)

— Democrats to IRS: Investigate right-wing groups that pretend to be "churches." (1:01:15)

— Oklahoma superintendent rejects Bibles in schools despite Ryan Walters' demands. (1:13:59)

— Kentucky church shuts down after pastor charged with child sex abuse. (1:20:01)

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