Today we're joined by a show favorite, Katy Faust, founder of Them Before Us, to discuss big fertility's increasing presence in our culture. We talk about California's new bill that redefines "fertility" to include gay couples in an effort to make insurance cover surrogacy in those cases. Naturally, there are some drastic repercussions of green-lighting a bill like this. We explain how we're misidentifying the victims, who are always the children, and why even Christian, heterosexual couples cannot let their longing for children be put above a child's well-being. We also cover why adoption is different from IVF and surrogacy and why it's so important to understand that IVF is never ethical.

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Timecodes:

(01:30) Why are more people talking about surrogacy/IVF

(03:50) California "redefining infertility" bill

(13:13) Misidentifying victims

(19:30) Infertile women

(24:40) Celebrity surrogacies

(30:05) Primal wound

(33:30) Adoption

(36:55) 'Ethical' IVF issues

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Relevant Episodes:

Ep 836 | Surrogacy Horror: Gay ‘Dads’ Demand Abortion | Guest: Brittney Pearson https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-836-surrogacy-horror-gay-dads-demand-abortion-guest/id1359249098?i=1000620814003

Ep 482 | Children Have the Right to a Mom and a Dad | Guest: Katy Faust https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-482-children-have-the-right-to-a-mom-and-a/id1359249098?i=1000534144056

Ep 695 | Why Children's Rights Trump Adults' Feelings | Guest: Katy Faust https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-695-why-childrens-rights-trump-adults-feelings-guest/id1359249098?i=1000583336623

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