In 2009, President Obama launched an initiative designed to use a community outreach approach to counter violent extremism. Ten years later, Professor David Schanzer, Director of the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security has analyzed the policy, and he says it was deeply flawed, but there are lessons to be learned.

• Read the episode transcript
• Read the report, "Engaging with Communities to Prevent Violent Extremism: A Review of the Obama Administration's CVE Initiative"
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