In what seems to be an innocent episode of Reddit Roulette of the All Things MSP podcast, hosts Eric Anthony and Justin Esgartake a sharp left turn into the world of project management and productivity hacks. They start by discussing "The Phoenix Project," a must-read book that tells a captivating  story while offering valuable insights into project management. Justin reveals that his company even includes the book as part of their employee onboarding package to instill essential project management skills in every new team member.The hosts then explore various project management software, with Justin expressing a preference for a physical Kanban board over digital tools like Trello or ClickUp. He emphasizes the importance of a tactile approach, as it helps keep tasks front and center, preventing them from being forgotten or buried within digital interfaces.Eric counters by sharing his experiences with transitioning from traditional bullet journaling to the digital equivalent, GoodNotes. While acknowledging the convenience and searchability of digital solutions, he still misses the tactile experience of pen and paper.The conversation concludes with a crucial piece of advice for anyone embarking on their project management journey: find productivity tools that suit your needs and stick with it for at least 90 days before making a decision.