Dèsa Daniel speaks with African American Student Services Director Brandi Stone on the generational challenges impacting leadership and students within Black communities. They process the triumphs made by Black elders who established Cultural Centers and Africana Studies during the civil rights movement. Director Stone discusses her experiences of "sitting at the table" while navigating conservative community spaces. They engage in a thoughtful conversation around mentorship, staying hopeful, and changing the question when someone tells you "no". Brandi and Dèsa explore how young Black professionals remain engaged despite the challenges they may experience.

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